"Playing" being the operative word. Even when that was my title I was more of a "Muddle-Through-by-Making-People-Giggle" Manager . I just thought some definites would be useful.

@Neon & DUNK - You've thought this through. I'm with you two 8) .

@Riley - You're right, of course.

My thoughts, for what they're worth. We'll need a map which will give us plenty of time to set up and have some fun. My understanding is that the timings "within" CP and PL maps are fixed. Arena restricts classes. I reckon that means CTF maps. I suggest one of the quaysides of 2Fort. Following Neon's suggestion, I reckon we'll need about 5 dispensers to span the width convincingly, as the "net", but we'll still be able to move around the "net"on the bridge or through the building. The water and buildings will give our Scout (Neon ) a chance of breaking the inevitable fall. That would be useful if we go for the "Scout Height Record", as well Whaddya think?

The server needs a password, the time limit set to "very long" (like our current 2Fort server) and, if the admins are very nice to us, they could apply "Moggie's hax" to let Engis build more than one dispenser. That way we'd need fewer Engi's allowing more folk to have fun as Pyros & Scouts.

This is quite a big ask to be done on the fly, so perhaps we should confirm with The Mighty Ones that they'll do this for us. It might also be good if it could be made a UKMD event on Steam to let everyone know it's happening.

So, may I pass the baton to that bewitcher of men, Melon, to have a chat with CAWA or Jim and enchant them into helping Then we can set a date, time & place. Is that ok, Ms. Melon?

And if everyone thinks this a pile of poo, please tell me. They certainly did when I was a "Project Manager"

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Peanut - "... or is your beard broken again ...?"

Greybeard for Prime Minister !!!!! I bow to your organising skills!!

Great ideas there buddy as I said before let me know where and when and I'll engie up as many disp's as am allowed for you all to use

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No worries ill point Cawa to the thread and hopefully we can sort

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updte
i think i can change my L4D server to tf2 and that should sort out maps and passwords, altho I am a complete ass at the admining side of things.

maybe one of our map makers (or their sister) could sort us out a basic map with 2 platforms and a ramp up onto them to allow us to play.how cool would it be to airblast someone over that crazy train map J!m posted about

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"I'm not a god, I was misquoted. "

rofl i have never made a map in my life!! thou its a good idea

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Right Jim has said just to give him the time and date so you guys want to do this, this weekend?

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Please note the PYRO juggling event has been scheduled for Sat 15th November at 10pm please let me know if you are going to attend as once the server is passworded I will need to let you know

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Oh! Poo! I'm stuffed for Saturday evening. I think this has the potential for huge hilarity , so I'm really sad to miss it. Will someone please, please, please make the vid. I can look forward to that instead.

Have loads of fun.

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Peanut - "... or is your beard broken again ...?"

Man alive and your the main man, when ru available over the weekend mte?

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Thanks, Melon, but please do not rearrange this for me. If Jim's been good enough to do the nonsense for us, let's not mess him about. I just wanted to make sure it happened 'cos it's about time we got a UKMD TF2 vid up on our YouTube channel Now it's happening, the most I could have contributed is a dispenser! I'll leave the Juggling to those more suited (i.e. anyone but me ). Just make sure someone's got "demo" running

If I can help in the mean time, give me a shout. Oh, and here are the rules of "Volley Scout":

Each team is made up of an equal number of Pyros.

Teams serve alternately, i.e. get a Scout in the air.

Once the Scout is in the air, he can be juggled by as many Pyro's on the team as required.

Once the Scout has crossed the net (i.e. dispensers ) the other team must "catch" him and. again, may keep him in the air with as many Pyros as required.

Teams lose a point to the opposition if :

• The Scout touches the ground on their side of the net;

• The Scout lands on or touches any of the buildings or falls in the water;

• The team incinerate the Scout

Play continues until the teams are incapacitated with laughter or just forget the score

Cheers

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Peanut - "... or is your beard broken again ...?"

I should be there.

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Watch my videos

ok great thanks peeps Dunk has been wanting to make a vid anyways so ill let you know the result

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I should be available as well, dont think im out on the piss this weekend (shocking for a Scotsman I know!)

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good stuff

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I'll be there. And I like the rules, especially losing a point if you incinerate the scout

Infact, maybe we could make it that anyone who kills the scout has to switch places with them?

Oh, the rules don't mention anything about the scout's double jump, so be nice to me and I might do my best not to land on your side

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imagine a double jump then blasted into the sky

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I like the cut of your jib, Neon You obviously like making up rules as much as I do. Were you ever a board gamer or table-top gamer before these new-fangled video games came along ?!

Seriously, I only put those rules up as a joke. If you just get a Scout back and forth across the net it will be fantastic. And a Scout's view of being ubered, blasted into the air and double-jumping should be something to behold 8)

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Peanut - "... or is your beard broken again ...?"

lol grey

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Sorry cancelled for tonight as Cawa isnt here to password the server will reschedule

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Nope, mainly because these 'new-fangled' video games came along before I did !dodge.

However, while I don't necessarily like making up rules, I do like not being set on fire

Melon, when you reschedule it, could it not be Saturday evening and definitely not a Sunday? Realised a little late I wouldn't be able to get online last night anyway, and I have work Sundays...

(of course, you could just find another Scout )

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My humblest apologies for not being available.

I will rearrange this and ensure that a server is made available for practice.

Sorry

CaWa

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greybeard, pm me, or msn, or skype, wahtever.

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Im open to ideas of when you guys would like to do this next, only time im not available is this Friday, Sat & Sun?

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I can only get to the Saturday one if it's during the day, since I'm usually getting ready for work near the evening. So Sunday isn't too good either really

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saturday day time would be good

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Wouldn't.

I'm sure most people either go out or work Saturdays

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Water found on Mars!

look lets not get all rigid about this.

i am sure we can password a server for a weekend, its rare to have more than 2 full anyway(do we not still have the passworded ones anyway that are unused)

if we are all noobing about and there seems to be enough that we can give this ago. 4 v 4 i think is min to start with 1 engi 3 pyros, or 2 engy and 2 pyro's

lets start small and see if we can build it up to 5-6 airblasts from different pyros. love the idea of a purely vertical map, with ledges for the pyros to stand on and blast people upward.

another variation,
Pyro tennis, this is on youtube but lets try it with 4 players, in a diamond (like baseball) and we can try and blast a rocket between 4 player. that could work with 12 red pyros in a big circle with a few blue soldiers spamming rockets at us.

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"I'm not a god, I was misquoted. "

Please see greybeard for all your pyro event news

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To make sure we had a serviceable number attend this little foray, I did a bit of PMing of interested parties. A band of valiant TF2ers are going to do their best to be around at:

14:30, SATURDAY 29TH NOVEMBER

Was that loud enough You are welcome to come along for the fun. There are no shortage of things to try (see DUNK's post above) .

@DUNK - Sorry I didn't get back to you sooner but I've been trying to confirm with CAWA.

Cheers

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Peanut - "... or is your beard broken again ...?"

Thanks a lot for this greybeard

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Riley tells me that a Steam event for Pyro Juggling has just popped up. A teeny error there. Let's face it, one Saturday looks very much like another. You want to try retirement - every day looks very much like the other (it is Wednesday, isn't it :? )

Just to confirm it's : 14:30, SATURDAY 29TH NOVEMBER i.e. next Saturday. Quite a few people couldn't make it today.

Cheers

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Peanut - "... or is your beard broken again ...?"

lol i did wonder when my brother came down and said it was on now!

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Despite a wobble, with a few "can't make it"s (including Melon ), people are still keen for this to go ahead. So, just to remind you, it's scheduled for Saturday, kicking off around 14:30. If you can make it, that would be great. CAWA's going to give me the server and password on Friday, so I won't have time to PM. I'll publish the details on the "|UKMD| General Team Fortress 2 Chat" forum in the hidden UKMD-only area.

If you're a Sponsor or Victim and want to join in, post or PM me and I'll make sure the info's on your forums, as well.

Here's a reminder of some of the things that have been suggested:

DUNK - "i think we should be able to get a team of pyros, have them all stand in a row and then have the opposing team pyroblasted along the line. like some big air powered moving people by air thing."

DUNK & Neon "i also want to try pyro tennis, ping pong a scout between 2 or more pyro's ... All the pyros would have to be the same team, obviously, and you'll need a net. Maybe a row of dispensers? You can refill your ammo that way too ...One thing though: I think the Scout will need some people on his team, because everytime a pyro misses the scout will take fall damage. Plus I wouldn't put it past them to set me on fire... So, you could either have a medic running around and getting in the way OR: Most of the scout's team are engineers. You get a whole row of dispensers for your net and the scout gets to heal between serves (will need at least one engie on the pyro's team though, since they can't use the scout's dispensers)"

Barbeque & Neon - "Try getting some medics too, don't know if it made a difference but i ubered someone on badwater then ended up being shot about a mile in the air, 3 times the height of the upstairs bit on badwater! ... When you're going for height, you could use more than airblast; have a heavy shooting them as well, or a soldier with good aim. If you use a scout again, they could cheat a bit and double jump."

Nick - "how about setting up a chain of pyros from one end of a map to the other and seeing if its possible to bounce someone all the way."

DUNK - "Pyro tennis, this is on youtube but lets try it with 4 players, in a diamond (like baseball) and we can try and blast a rocket between 4 player. that could work with 12 red pyros in a big circle with a few blue soldiers spamming rockets at us."

Looking around YouTube, most "Tennis" vids are with rockets or flares. I couldn't find any with more than 2 Pyros (see DUNK's final suggestion). I've seen a couple of Heavy juggling vids but nothing on the scale we could achieve if we put our minds to it.

If your PC can stand it, please demo all or part of the session, especially if you're taking an active part as Pyro, Scout, Soldier or whatever. I doubt I'll be anything but an Engi or Medic, so I'll have the observer's point of view.

Which brings me to the "YouTube" bit of this exercise. I am very happy to put any stuff together into a vid. I've made a few vids over the years. However, I'm only a WMM user and don't have any posh video editing software. Or claim to be an artistic genius. So, if anyone's good at this stuff and is willing to volunteer, I'll happily coordinate getting the demos to them.

See you there.

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Peanut - "... or is your beard broken again ...?"

see, we dont have anythin as fun on css, some1 buy me tf2 please

and if melon aint there u aint missin much, could use her as a soft landing for pyros or whatever your juggling is it spies?

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|UKMD| Melon wrote ...

dont make me show u my melons im warning you

|UKMD| Melon wrote ...

dont make me show u my melons im warning you

Spyro wrote ...

No Shad thats not a banana, im just that excited too see you %-6

yeah gutted about it mate but cant be helped family dont understand online commitments!!

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The main suggestion has been Scouts but I love the idea of a Spy becoming invisible mid-air. That should cause some confusion. Nice one, Shadam

Alas, I have a spare H-L2 and Ep. 1 but not TF2. Get it on your Xmas list

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Peanut - "... or is your beard broken again ...?"

ooh! Tomorrow.....I think I'm free!

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CAWA's set up the server. Access details here

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Peanut - "... or is your beard broken again ...?"

Well, that was insane !lol

Red Base on Badwater played host to Red vs. Blu rocket/flare/grenade tennis. Amongst the madness, there were demonstrations of brilliant volleys, accurate aiming and some outright flukes

The cooperation between the teams was exemplary until "30 seconds left in the mission" was announced when TF2 instincts kicked in and a massacre usually ensued.

I can take little credit for this display of extraordinary skill as I was trying to record these exploits inbetween keeping my dispenser in one piece and being slapped, timebombed and airblasted by all and sundry.

A huge thank you to all who came along and, especially, to CAWA for sorting the server. I had an absolutely hilarious afternoon.

I've got a lot recorded but I know others had demo running as well. If you could upload it to some web space, somewhere, I'll grab it. If you don't have access to a few MB's in the ether, let me know and you can upload to my FileFront page.

Again, I'll happily string this stuff together into a vid but if anyone else would like to do it or, better still, is good at it, just say.

Thanks again for a most enjoyable couple of hours.

Cheers

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Peanut - "... or is your beard broken again ...?"

Greybeard
well done for getting so many noobs together, sounds like it was as much fun as i thought it would be.

sorry i couldnt make it, maybes the next time.

look forward to seeing the finished vid. if anyone has any screenshots of the mayhem then post them here.

well done all, and thanks to cawa for locking down the server

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"I'm not a god, I was misquoted. "

yer, it was good fun, and i got three more achievements !! yey

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I had a really good time, even my missus thought it was amusing - although my little lad didn't understand why we were playing on train tracks - bless.

Thanks to greybeard for organising us and to cawa for sorting the server out. I can't wait to see the vids.

we have to do more stuff like this as it was great fun

ahem ahem dunk and melon had the idea just not the time but thanks again Greybeard xxxx

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im sorry i missed it
hope to see some quality vids soon

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LOL

3 achievements while mucking about. just shows how serious Valve were when they made this game!

well done Peanut, i should try and get some more of mine out the way.

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"I'm not a god, I was misquoted. "

Dunk you and I need to sit on a empty server and get some of the impossible achievements done!

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I can help..


Im free tonight

I always free all nights.

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ok doffen i will take u up on this

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Yeeeei

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Please bear with me on producing the vid. Between Oldman and myself, I reckon we had the best part of 4 hours of demo recordings which I've turned into 67GB of avi files. It's a bit of a big job. I'll get some screenies out as soon as I can but in the mean time, here are some of my favourite quotes.

Oldman (on playing 'Volley Scout' with only 3 on the server): "We need a dispenser ... and some skillz"

Neon (on 'accidentally' blowing up the opposition): "Cruel ... but funny"

Oldman: I'm definitely gonna die ... but it'll make me laugh"

Neon (on inventing 'Dodge Rocket'): This could be interesting ... or go very, very wrong"

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Peanut - "... or is your beard broken again ...?"