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|UKMD| Little Red

Fri Jul 03 09, 07:21PM

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Hey all, just joined the main server (Friday Night) with my backy and my Magners ready to have some noob on noob mayhem of an all nighter!
But to my surprize, i joined a team of 3 terrorists against 4 ct's on d2_unl !!

It is close to 1 year since i first stumbled upon the server and since then i have not found a better server for variation of 64 player maps, noob friendliness and most of all... no better community than UKMD!

But lately, i have felt that the main css server, 'the backbone of UKMD', has but almost been forgotten! The frequent updates and substitutions of maps, bringing change and keeping interests alive! Even poor old Eric (ETB) has gone elsewhere, leaving the T's at spawn scratching there arses wondering when the l33t squad of ct's are gunna burst throo d'doors!

I know TF2 has seen alot of interest l8ly and im glad to see it doing well and helping to expand the community and alot off the css players have also changed over to TF2. But the main server is still bringing in victims and there could be alot more if we could just give it a lick of paint every now and then, just to keep it fresh and appealing!

I would like to add my suggestions and hopefully those who feel the server needs a makeover will add their views too!

Apart from the favourites....d2_unlimited.... office_unlimited.... Desert_atrocity and italy_tacktic

a whole load of new or old maps like '3rd st.' 'hiddencity' 'blue corridor'

and i would love to see ETB make a comeback

Stats r fine as they are atm, i know they've caused hassle lately but i would prefer a stress free server

and finally i would love to see (lol) friendly fire maybe once this year on the main server in a fight night or some sort of arranged event!

Thats my opinion on the main server, the bloody thing is probably full now!
Please leave your opinions behind!

Yours Haxfully
Little Red

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Fri Jul 03 09, 07:49PM

I know you said that you wouldn't tolerate excuses, but we have a real good one.

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I agree, sad to see it decline a bit. Don't quite know why its dropped in popularity a bit.
The problem with more fightnights (something i'd love) is those that can are often the busiest and they take alot of effort, as evidenced by the zombies vs aliens recently which was superb because of the effort put in.
As for maps, i'd love vagas back, but i think it caused some form of problem, if not get it in

And finally could atrocity be added to the day rotation please?
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Fri Jul 03 09, 07:59PM

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Unfortunately tf2 is being favoured, so id say its unlikely the main server will change soon

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CS:S is a little dead recently :/

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Fri Jul 03 09, 08:14PM

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Makes me sad seeing 10 people online at 6pm.. there are always the same people on too! It's all ways will-jam hacking! xD

but, many maps used to be so good, i love all of the maps currently but i miss others too like bluecorridor

i dont like the models though, i used to like them but when they were taken away i noticed the greater reg and the greater fps, i now have less and 'cry' when i cant hit people or my fps go nuts and goes to like 10!

i love UKMD, but the main css server is killing meee :/

*cry's*

bring back CS:S!!

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Fri Jul 03 09, 08:44PM

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<3 css but tf2 has me hooked when there are more players =(

when i get new PC im sure ill play more ill have highest settings for once.

Old maps tfw!!! dust_team_mx i think it was called, the oe which had a huge circle in the middle and only smg's for ct

good times, also the one where T would camp a huge aircraft hanger, lol ct could never rescue the hostages on there.

|UKMD| Little Red

Fri Jul 03 09, 09:00PM

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Not just me then

is there much effort needed to take out some maps and add more? and was etb removed because of the lag complaints or is it an unfixed glitch?

|UKMD| safari jim

Fri Jul 03 09, 09:22PM

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Teleporno wrote ...
Unfortunately tf2 is being favoured, so id say its unlikely the main server will change soon

negative, unhelpful, WRONG

Wasn't long ago Moggie completely gutted and reinstalled the server with bare minimum plugins because everyone complained about the "reg"

just yesterday, i started questioning a few regulars about maps, got my head together with Quincy to discuss some changes to the map rotation.

Just this very morning, myself and Cawa came on and tried a few maps out for the early morning regulars, WITH the early morning regulars, such as Quincy, welshace, mick B, dawntheif (thats how he spells it), Zel, Rizla+, rizzorobba, vatos lacos,[eWp][T]Skip_bib's wifey, we saw 30 ppl on the server at 11am as we tried out De_nuke and De_tides and de_piranesi, all of which we're adding to the rotation as soon as spawn points can be added (which i've messaged lagmonster about, and he's sorting tonight)

Just recently, during may/june i spent more time on CSS during 2 weeks than any other game, though you won't have seen me, and sm_who won't have shown me, seeing the mainserver as is from a regular joes point of view.

me:

Sky Blue

Though how i'm ranked higher as sky blue than i am as safari j!m i have no idea.

changes afoot from current observations:

early morning rotation:

2am-1pm:

De_dust2
De_tides
De_nuke
De_nightfever
De_piranesi

and possibly:

Cs_office_extended

afternoon/evening rotation:

2am-1pm:

De_dust2
De_dust2_unlimited
De_dust_ukmd
De_desert_atrocity_v3
De_nightfever
De_piranesi
De_pasedequartier
De_mx_glass
Cs_office_extended

"server killers" identified by Quincy (lets face it, he's on the main a fair bit) such as aztek and nighthawk will be removed (yesterday saw the server drop from 35 people to 9 when nighthawk came on, this is what i believe contributed to what red connected into tonight)

any suggestions for others to be added will be considered, but should "server killing" happen (i.e. half the server leaves when they come on) will be again removed.

|UKMD| CAWA has promised to be on more as well, and make skin fight nites a fortnightly thing for a while.

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Fri Jul 03 09, 09:24PM

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and etb relied on psychostats i believe, but will check with moggie whether it can be adapted to use points from hlstats rather than the skill from psychostats.

|UKMD| morphii!

Fri Jul 03 09, 09:51PM

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, im gona be back with u guys fully on the server soon, and ill be happy to take a diffrent approach to the css dedication, and maybe we can all get it back on tracks, cant blame tf2..thats just another game. The game (css) is old, takes sum effort from us all to keep it uptodate and interesting, moggie is providing the tools, we just have to use it.

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|UKMD| safari jim wrote ...

Teleporno wrote ...
Unfortunately tf2 is being favoured, so id say its unlikely the main server will change soon

negative, unhelpful, WRONG Wasn't long ago Moggie completely gutted and reinstalled the server with bare minimum plugins because everyone complained about the "reg" just yesterday, i started questioning a few regulars about maps, got my head together with Quincy to discuss some changes to the map rotation. Just this very morning, myself and Cawa came on and tried a few maps out for the early morning regulars, WITH the early morning regulars, such as Quincy, welshace, mick B, dawntheif (thats how he spells it), Zel, Rizla+, rizzorobba, vatos lacos,[eWp][T]Skip_bib's wifey, we saw 30 ppl on the server at 11am as we tried out De_nuke and De_tides and de_piranesi, all of which we're adding to the rotation as soon as spawn points can be added (which i've messaged lagmonster about, and he's sorting tonight) Just recently, during may/june i spent more time on CSS during 2 weeks than any other game, though you won't have seen me, and sm_who won't have shown me, seeing the mainserver as is from a regular joes point of view. me:

/> Sky Blue Though how i'm ranked higher as sky blue than i am as safari j!m i have no idea. changes afoot from current observations: early morning rotation: 2am-1pm: De_dust2 De_tides De_nuke De_nightfever De_piranesi and possibly: Cs_office_extended afternoon/evening rotation: 2am-1pm: De_dust2 De_dust2_unlimited De_dust_ukmd De_desert_atrocity_v3 De_nightfever De_piranesi De_pasedequartier De_mx_glass Cs_office_extended "server killers" identified by Quincy (lets face it, he's on the main a fair bit) such as aztek and nighthawk will be removed (yesterday saw the server drop from 35 people to 9 when nighthawk came on, this is what i believe contributed to what red connected into tonight) any suggestions for others to be added will be considered, but should "server killing" happen (i.e. half the server leaves when they come on) will be again removed. |UKMD| CAWA has promised to be on more as well, and make skin fight nites a fortnightly thing for a while. unruly mob.................GO!!-->

To be honest you cannot deny that TF2 is getting favoured.

And I'm not saying thats a bad thing, we must have more TF2 noobs now and we have more TF2 servers full.

No matter what people CSS is dying, in this community and on the whole.

|UKMD| safari jim wrote ...

and etb relied on psychostats i believe, but will check with moggie whether it can be adapted to use points from hlstats rather than the skill from psychostats.

Nope, ETB is done purely by idividuals score and team score

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Fri Jul 03 09, 10:45PM

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Couldn't disagree more. Counter Strike isn't dying - we just need the next version of it from valve... which is likely to be the next project after l4d2 from what I'm hearing, but is defo not official, so don't quote me.

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Sat Jul 04 09, 12:39AM

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Css is not dying!!!But we have to be more careful about the maps...i like every map (even if i get lost in some).Example 2 days ago i joined it was dust_mx and there were 42 players ...the map changed to aztec_mx and only 20 players stayed.
I have to admit that i love the new line-up of maps that jim proposed but WE still have to go on the server and play...because nobody will join an empty server.I saw many ppl leave because "Ohh,i don't like a 1on1"
WE have to "work" on the server.

Barbeque

Sat Jul 04 09, 12:51AM

I know you said that you wouldn't tolerate excuses, but we have a real good one.

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|UKMD| safari jim wrote ...

Teleporno wrote ...
Unfortunately tf2 is being favoured, so id say its unlikely the main server will change soon

All good news!
Except you have 2 sets of 2am - 1pm, so no maps from 1pm-2am

Other than that, ways to improve the server...ban Welshace?

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|UKMD| safari jim

Sat Jul 04 09, 12:53AM

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|UKMD| Barbeque wrote ...
Â All good news! Except you have 2 sets of 2am - 1pm, so no maps from 1pm-2am

Other than that, ways to improve the server...ban Welshace?

cba to edit it cos im slightly tipsy

should be 1pm-2am

and ban smit while we're at at

|UKMD| Casey Chaos

Sat Jul 04 09, 01:18AM

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Any chance of adding kismayo to the 1pm-2am list or is that a server killer too?

DUNK

Sat Jul 04 09, 01:21AM

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i would play more css, well lets be honest i would play a little css if it wasnt for 1 thing.
and sorry if this offends
but its the majority of players.
little teamwork, selfish campers, reluctant terrorists, moaning about reg (poor guy), the cheats, the maps and lastly the admin "fun".
css is what got me into online gaming and tbh, i was rubbish at it but loved it.
the majority of the newer members to ukmd have come via the tf2 servers and not poached from CSS. we do make a real effort to get people to apply and for the most they become regulars even if they dont.

tf2 aint the problem with empty css servers. css is the problem as it has too many variations (cash,no cash, awp, no awp,tic rate,maps,models,skins) so people are less likely to move from a server they like. recent bans on css players highlight that there are still a few tossers out there that i wouldnt want to spend time with, never mind play a game with.

come play some tf2, once we get out of this annoying habit of putting alltalk on (please moggie, disable that option)we can continue with the fun.

|UKMD| Casey Chaos

Sat Jul 04 09, 01:25AM

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I do agree with some points there dunk about peoples play on the server, I'm probably guilty of some bad play but I have to say it's improved since the stats have gone and people are playing properly more rather than worried about points.

|UKMD| safari jim

Sat Jul 04 09, 01:31AM

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I don't think CS:S is dying, but, since i joined UKMD (or team mx) we have had 2 cracking additions to the catalogue of source games we can run servers for and link with our friends via steam, L4D and TF2. we're not all grouping in the one game anymore, we're spreading out over 3.

and I don't think its a bad thing, i play any of them based on mood really, and if i get bored of one, i can easily jump to anotyher and still play with friends. and thats whats keeping me paying my internet bill each month, the friends i've made on here.

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CS:S dying or not, I will keep playing and loving it, personally I don't need a next version.

Just made my comeback on pubbing (on UKMD's server) and what made me leave was the daytime map rotation:
D2, Inferno, Nightfever, repeat
so I'm glad that's gonna change and will probably make me stick around a bit longer.

@ Dunk, it's a public server with 56 slots and has "NOOB Friendly" in it's name,
I don't expect much teamwork/serious gameplay when I join there tbh.

A lot can be said and done about the reg etc, but I think the funpart gets priority on UKMD
(and it shows)

Sidenote: I'm all for default servers (ff on, no restricts) but since this one isn't I wouldn't mind if flashes would be added to the restrictlist.
Too much teamflashing going on (at least when I played).

where's your mic..?

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|UKMD| Â»B.A.DÂ« go0 wrote ...
Â I wouldn't mind if flashes would be added to the restrictlist. Too much teamflashing going on (at least when I played).

Do what i do and ask Quincy to stop throwing them when he's on your team

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Sat Jul 04 09, 07:25AM

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Would be nice to see the CSS servers pick up a bit. I've been a bit side tracked myself recently with the a crowd of us playing L4D vrs every night.
I don't think CSS is dying, I just think, as Jim said, its in need of a little tlc and if this works out as planned, before we know it, it will start repopulating and the n00bness will be back in force!!!

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being able to initiate an alltalk vote is excellent, when people from both teams are chatting it makes it feel much more homey.

Really miss etb though, sometimes when one team gets a decent line up it can be almost unpossible to break them down and kill em off.

OMG jim was Sky Blue!!

last time u ever gets a quiet game on that acc

can the DM and gg servers get attention too, delayed respawn on Dm means i never play it, gg_hharenatnbfinal or w.e its called was BROKEN and unplayable last time i went on. and aim_ag_texture2_modified_v2 should be put on the DM either 24/7 or 50/50. and there should be rounds, so u don't go on and have bots with 2000+ kills and the server feeling like it needs a restart.

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Indeed J!m allthough its not just those magical flashbangs its all throwable objects i suck with

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i dont think CS S will ever die, iv played it for years, its the only game i play over and over, i take breaks now and again to play some mmorpg's etc but CSS drags me back every time.

i was playing the low populated server lastnite, with most of the guys whos posted here. and i gota say i had the most fun iv had on css for months!

LONG LIVE CS!

i agree with the map rotations aswell, i find it quite anoying playin a "dust" map 2/3 maps that comes onto the server

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Sat Jul 04 09, 11:22AM

I know you said that you wouldn't tolerate excuses, but we have a real good one.

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|UKMD| Â»B.A.DÂ« go0 wrote ...

CS:S dying or not, I will keep playing and loving it, personally I don't need a next version.

True, but it would be awesome if they brought back the riot shield, even if it was irritating

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Like I said last night, with 8 of us on main server on a fightnight...I'll supply the pictures

so this is what it was like on dust_unlimited

nightfever...

not even rtv on dust_unlimited to a smaller map got people in

but might have been emptied out because we were on dust2 then dust2_unlimited came on straight after which I can see why people leave, same just a bit bigger o.O

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Btw, is it possible to put the unmodded de_dust2 on the server as the one on their now has crazy opjects placed about the map :S

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| UKMD |AndyMayteee wrote ...
Btw, is it possible to put the unmodded de_dust2 on the server as the one on their now has crazy opjects placed about the map :S

and first timers go

"wtf a strider!!!"

"wtf black sky!!!"

and remember us

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|UKMD| safari jim wrote ...

| UKMD |AndyMayteee wrote ...
Btw, is it possible to put the unmodded de_dust2 on the server as the one on their now has crazy opjects placed about the map :S

and first timers gowtf a strider!!!
wtf black sky!!!
and remember us

Yeah Keep dust2 thats the first map I played on team MX back in the good ol' days, and is what kept me coming back to the main server, dayum that was a time ago o.O

without all those random objects don't think I'd be in part of UKMD today

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|UKMD| safari jim wrote ...

| UKMD |AndyMayteee wrote ...
Btw, is it possible to put the unmodded de_dust2 on the server as the one on their now has crazy opjects placed about the map :S

and first timers go "wtf a strider!!!" "wtf black sky!!!" and remember us

and my personal favourite...

"I'm going to try and save the hostages!"

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|UKMD| safari jim wrote ...

and ban smit while we're at at

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=( </3 jim

the main css server is gettin emptier every week, but with the new maps coming in it shud make it more popular with the regulars coming back because the current rotation has gotten stale imo.

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put kismayo on the rotation and somehow make the css players feel as important as the tf2 players. Maybe for the fight nights do custom maps. Its a good way to test new ones out and it brings in a bit of variation. AND counterstrike will never die. There are still thousands of ppl playing 1.6 ffs.

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it's our maps.

I am a tf2 player, but I have played css for years! About 4 years now of and on.

I don't like the maps you have on the main server.

I hope this isn't a game war? I will always love css because that was the first steam online game I'd played, and I did enjoy it. But I love tf2 now. I was going to give up online games until tf2 came out. TF2 gets updates and new toys which keep it fresh and imo has awesome gameplay. That's why it's popular.

But it is our maps. I don't like the css maps we have.

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Domino wrote ...

But it is our maps. I don't like the css maps we have.

having both dust2 + dust2_unlimited in one mapcycle is a no go imho, all the more if you also have de_dust_ukmd + de_desert_atrocity in it.
So personally I would dump dust2_unlimited (only good as DM map with custom spawnpoints imo).
Maybe add de_losttemple_pro.

where's your mic..?

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Sun Jul 05 09, 10:46AM

I know you said that you wouldn't tolerate excuses, but we have a real good one.

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|UKMD|.roAst wrote ...

put kismayo on the rotation

Not a fan of kismayo

|UKMD| Â»B.A.DÂ« go0 wrote ...

So personally I would dump dust2_unlimited (only good as DM map with custom spawnpoints imo).

Its brilliant when we have over 24 people, then standard dust_2 becomes very cluttered and boring, i would much prefer d2u generally.
Mind you if the server became 24/7 atrocity i'd also be happy, but there we go

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my opinion for what its worth... in regards to the server not being too popular..

team stacking .. a few people NEVEr go on a different side.. always the same CT side no matter what map

we should remove the RTV.. we have a vote for a map and immediately it starts noobs start rtv'ing it or someone joins the server mid map and starts it off.. the map has been voted for fair and square.. i spent a few times having one or two rounds in one map then RTV starts and a new map loads.. then exactly the same again.. its daft imo and like a few others who dont want to sit loading, loading loading .. i left..

the map rotation maybe does need a revamp but tbh that isnt the only issues..youve got 2 dusts down on the rotation however different yet you took off aztec??? how daft is that.. aztec doesnt see people leave when it comes on....

people are loving the models return and no-one is moaning now about points etc for stats.. .. overall a few minor tweaks and the server will be back how it was..

Angelina may be gorgeous but Ducky is awesomesauce itself.!!

Sylarrr

Sun Jul 05 09, 03:12PM

Mr. no sound

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tbh we've already got Dust2, Dust2_unlimited, dust_ukmd & atrocity already on the server, and they may be different maps but I personally think too much Dust is whats driving people away, so to put kismayo on and have 5 dust/sand maps is like actually pulling out the digital sand and scraping it along the eyes of who ever encounters it...Or maybe im just biased because i just hate sand o.O

Ooooo Jim or Cawa or Moggie who ever reads this

when voting instead of 1/2/3/4/5

can we have something like 5/6/7/8/9

atleast then map voting won't be decided on whether someone is changing weapon xD

|UKMD| welshace

Sun Aug 16 09, 10:34PM

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agree with everything said... cept the banning me part... bbq will get a flash to the back of the skull for this attempt at mutiny.. >:(

p.s spam

Ducky â™¥

Sun Aug 16 09, 10:58PM

Nonsensical & Unpossible

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what we need is a server where I don't get shot within 10 seconds in a game! then I'll be happy to play CSS more, until then you're not gonna see me much until I had loads and loads of practice.

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